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Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:26 am

Okay guys I was wondering if we were "friends" with the SkyCaptains because after what robsbro did i got very aggrovated and I was wondering if I should keep them in my room or not, because lots of em join my TT room. And maybe another reason is because 2 people that I know of have left the clan and went to SkyCaptains now I was wondering if I should keep them with me or not. Thank you.

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Re: Quick Question

Post by gilgamesh993 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:42 am

ur becoming one of those fags that kicks people from theyre rooms just because theyre in ur room. what the fuck did they ever do to u? nub.

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Re: Quick Question

Post by blancanunca on Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:56 am

i only really have a problem with robsbro / xeastballerx and eat lead... especially now that east has admitted to hacks on a forum =o

but that doesn't mean we kick everyone who is in the clan of anyone we hate.

until robsbro confirms that his noob accounts name is nuzleafer i don't know if he actually believes all of pandemonium hacks, but i do know he doesn't like me and thinks we all hate him. ^^

but rage kicking is one of those things that hurts our clans image, like lobby / channel chat spamming does. we may want to consider giving warnings / suspensions to people who abuse elite mod / super elite. i know flameshots really reallllyy abused his elite mod, and im glad he's gone ^^

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Re: Quick Question

Post by Divide00 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:18 am

Yes Flame. Oh my god he was such a rage kicker. I remember one guy came through the window on Alpha (the road less taken) and shot him from the back and Flame kicked him immediately. =.=

Anyways yes, I believe we shouldn't be like, oh we're gonna kick anyone from this clan blah blah. Unanswered's people might do that but that doesn't mean we have to.
Also, what up with the stacked games huh? I go into a TT games that's probably like 9/16 and I see 5 guys on one side from Pand plus a few extra guys and like maybe one or two people on the other team. THat doesn't look too nice either, at least imo
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Re: Quick Question

Post by rawad11 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:35 am

by the way i found out that theirs 2 people that play on heliumz profile 1 of them is cool and 1 of them is the guy that kicks us

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Re: Quick Question

Post by Divide00 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:45 am

Makes sense. No wonder he leveled so fast =.=
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Re: Quick Question

Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:55 am

Ok seriously I'm not rage kicking ask fongstar and a few others I don't kick people cz they kill me I only kick people that do not follow my rules. Now for the clan hating thing. Idc what you guys think no offence I WILL hate on EVERY unanswred now for the skycaptains I was asking for your guys opinions now I AM NOT ABUSING ELITE abusing for me is being like manneh sorry to any lovers of manneh my point is I don't thinks it fair that other clans kick us/hackusate/hate and brainwash people to leave our clan so now just please comment saying a simple yes or no so this topic will be over with. Thank you.

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Re: Quick Question

Post by gilgamesh993 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:35 am

Ok, this is what's going to happen.

You start kicking UnanswerD members. You look like a fag, like Manneh. People that you kick won't know the difference from the fact that you think they're hacking or you kick people on the spot; because chances are that if there's a member from Unanswered that you kick, people in game with you will think you're a rage kicker, which you are. If you kick them it will increase the rage towards you and this clan. Then some other person that you kicked will start randomly kicking Pandemonium members for the same reason you wanted to kick UnanswereD. No matter what you think, what you're doing won't have any good effects. Maybe in the immediate future you'll think, "Yes, now that will teach Unanswered to stay away from the clan.." But it will ruin our image and make us look like ignorant retards.

Let's also take into consideration that not all Unanswered members kick us. The only ones that do, to my knowledge, are Heliumz and OneHardDude. If you kick other members from that clan they won't think to themselves, "Wow. He's kicking us because we kicked his clan. We should stop and leave them alone." They'll think that we're stupid rage kickers, which is what we all thought of Manneh and whoever. Also, being that Heliumz is much more well known than us, he's gonna have a bigger crowd to rally for him. Same deal as Baxstar.

Stupid idea.

havimees wrote:Then from now on I'll be a grammar Fool like gil

I win.

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Re: Quick Question

Post by Bee8 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:40 am

NO Heliumz is cool with us... only hardDude fking kick. us and havi dont forget about GAB ...


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Re: Quick Question

Post by blancanunca on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:43 am

havimees wrote:Idc what you guys think no offence I WILL hate on EVERY unanswred

that's... not what i wanted to hear.

u could at least explain urself? just because they kick us doesn't mean we should kick them.

I've said it before with the spamming. spamming back against the spammers does NOT solve problems, it only causes and promotes them to spam more.

Kicking "EVERY" unanswered because 1-3 or so of their elite mods kick us in their elite mod games is completely idiotic. It would only make them want to kick us more, and it can only make our image look WORSE.

It seriously can only make our image look worse if we decide to kick back or talk shit about people who hate us. If they are consistently the ones being the assholes, the question will come up to people observing the situation being "why do u guys hate pandemonium so much // why do u guys kick pandemonium".

What we don't want is for them to have answers to that question. ie: "they kick us in games; they call us hackers; or they just hate us"

I actually don't know the history between us, if we actually just have a problem with 1-3 of their elite mods, or if the majority of their active players kick us / think we hack / hate us.. so i'll just answer both possibilities ^^

the "IDC what you think but im going to hate on everyone" mentality is exactly what causes problems. Please do not think that way. It's not good.

you ask for a simple yes / no response to a complicated subject so it can be ended quickly. But that would be incredibly oversimplifying the situation.

If i don't prove that being the passive abuse taker in this situation is the correct action to take, then people are just going to rage and bitch at them for their actions, when all we need to do is just stfu and take it.

Shit like this happens all the time in CA. CBL admins/staff get kicked often, and when they do they laugh because they know they owned the server, they know they can own people in a different server, and they just move on because its too much drama and too insignificant to deal with the problem directly because ignoring it / avoiding it is actually the solution.

When the time comes when the majority of active players in a clan seriously hate our clan, then we can discuss it with the leaders of their clan what the fuck is going on.

fortunately, that point should never come when a whole clan hates us because THEY SHOULD HAVE NO REASON TOO IF YOU DON'T ACT LIKE A STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLE.

enough said.
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goodjob gil too ^^ we pretty much made the same point XD

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Re: Quick Question

Post by Bee8 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:08 am

havi gl with reading Very Happy
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Re: Quick Question

Post by blancanunca on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:12 am

if he doesn't at least reply to this im going to bring it up to him in clanchat...

its not something we can just ignore and take lightly, its actually pretty serious.

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Re: Quick Question

Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:44 am

For once I'm COMPLETELY dissed But one moree thing I won't kick the
clans anymore even if I did I really didn't care what people thought of ME but since Blanca taught me in a way that they will hate my
clan entirely I will stop kicking people but what about Cheshire he thinks we hack and he brainwashed a few people from our clan and besides his "clan" has only 5 people in it
monkey

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Re: Quick Question

Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:46 am

And bee this is really serious half of this is cz of you well the unanswered part

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Re: Quick Question

Post by blancanunca on Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:04 am

again with the brainwashing thing, what are you even talking about? If someone in our clan is stupid enough to believe someone when they say "pandemonium is a hacker clan" and trusts that person enough instead of trusting their own clan members then i'd rather have them out of the clan anyway.

obviously they aren't very dedicated members to a clan if they can be brainwashed... and with how many people we are recruiting now a days we need to start rooting out the people who are here for shits and giggles for a week then leave. Need to find those active members that we know want to stay.

so.. would rather have the people who can get brainwashed out of the clan anyway -.- may be kinda harsh, but its true.

As for the Cheshire pandemic i assume this is what you're talking about. ^^

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(note im playing Manneh, conspiracy? Manneh with no elite = beg chesh to kick me? ^^)

i hear a lot of stories of Cheshire being a sore loser. just bring up the fact that he has absolutely no evidence to back up any of his claims, then just repeat that argument while owning him in game till he rage quits.

Even if its a small clan, we can't give people answers to the question: "why do u hate pandemonium" by rage kicking their clan and keep telling others that cheshire is a sore loser. It just makes us look arrogant when in actuality all we have to do is, like i said earlier, pretty much nothing.

Just keep it to owning him in game and in in game conversations, but don't go around telling people on messenger / lobby chat how much of a loser he is.

If we give people no reason to hate us, there won't be many people who hate us. ^^

I need to sleep. night XD

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Re: Quick Question

Post by gilgamesh993 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:14 am

theres also the factor of whos the mature one in this. Obviously the way blanca and i want to take this is to not provoke anyone and make them have an attitude towards us that we might not want. I mean to me, if we just handle this like its no big deal then it seems that we've come out top of the food chain so to speak. If we're mature people that can handle things in a mature* way then it would definitely help our image an give us much more respect.

*ie. not rage kicking people and making a fool of urself.

i'd like to say more but blanca got it all..

fail topic title. nice job hav. way to stir up a debate.




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Re: Quick Question

Post by BlackLevia on Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:34 pm

My solution...

JUST DON'T RAGE KICK!

Chances are, Helium, OneHard, Gayb, Manneh etc. won't join your room because they're busy kicking in theirs. (Bee, stop hugging their legs, they still kick me.) As for Ches, do whatever you want, he's a snob =/ I'd just dish out a "no QQ" or something, then if he shuts up we can ignore him. For the rest of the clans, just ignore unless they actually break your rules. East is gone automatically... Rob is... a retard, but meh w/e.
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Re: Quick Question

Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:19 pm

Guys for the last time I DO NOT rage kick. All I was asking if I should kick the enemy clans and I'm seeing 3 no's? Except for the Cheshire thing. I can't explain to you guys how much I hate him. Now to kick him or not I guess black said yes? And Blanca (least expected) says no? Now majority wins on the unanswered thing so I WILL stop kicking them. Now for the Cheshire thing I need a few more answers to see the answer clearly thanks. silent

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Re: Quick Question

Post by havimees on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:34 pm

Blanc I don't even know how you survive with that dumbass I would just rage at him... I know it's wrong and all but with his rumors going along that you "hack" won't more people hate on you? He even called linky a "hacker" that dumbass calls you one cause he's jealous of your kdr. But linky? What did he ever to do Cheshire? That's what I hate about these kind of people just cause they do/are better than you that means you "hack" this is why I don't want these kind of people in my room. Once again I am NOT abusing elite abusing for me is having a rep like Manneh. Calling me a hacker is enough but calling my clan is passing the limit... So yeah just tell me should I kick Cheshire or no I got my answer From blanc and black sooo yeah please just tell me if I should kick Cheshire and his clan. Thanks

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Re: Quick Question

Post by blancanunca on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:19 pm

gilgamesh993 wrote:If we're mature people that can handle things in a mature* way then it would definitely help our image an[d] give us much more respect.

if chesh is in ur game and u have elite, just tell him you'll kick him if he hackusates ur clan 1 more time. Having a good image is as simple as looking professional...

if ur pubing with him just let him know he has no evidence for any of his claims, like i said, and just tell him were CBL clean? lulz

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Re: Quick Question

Post by -0-0-7- on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:44 pm

rawad11 wrote:by the way i found out that theirs 2 people that play on heliumz profile 1 of them is cool and 1 of them is the guy that kicks us

NICE!

How the hell did you find that one out? Im very interested to see if the HeliumZ I know (the nice one) is in fact nice -.-
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Re: Quick Question

Post by -0-0-7- on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:47 pm

Bee8 wrote:NO Heliumz is cool with us... only hardDude fking kick. us and havi dont forget about GAB ...


btw rawad ur sig looks sick?????

HeliumZ is cool with us now???
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Re: Quick Question

Post by BlackLevia on Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:30 pm

I never said you raged. I said Don't Rage Kick -_-||

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Post by Bee8 on Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:12 pm

havimees wrote:Guys for the last time I DO NOT rage kick. All I was asking if I should kick the enemy clans and I'm seeing 3 no's? Except for the Cheshire thing. I can't explain to you guys how much I hate him. Now to kick him or not I guess black said yes? And Blanca (least expected) says no? Now majority wins on the unanswered thing so I WILL stop kicking them. Now for the Cheshire thing I need a few more answers to see the answer clearly thanks. silent

havi ches is biggest QQer ever seen.. he is just jealous.. and he does that to us all time
like if anyone of us is in his room, he will kick us but again he fails... so if u find him so annoying just kick Him..... xd
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